This is just an Update to a previous post ( it's long so I gave it a post of it's own).
I wrote in my previous post about my concerns regarding Yoga Therapy. On the one hand I recognise the therapeutic value of a Yoga practice as well as it's possibilities but on the other, the creation of the occupation of Yoga Therapist disturbs me. In the previous post I was trying to get to the bottom of why it disturbed me so much ( and failing).
I think I've finally worked out why it bothers me and I find myself in good company. TKV Desikachar seems to have had similar concerns, here the reference is to viniyoga in which aspects of yoga therapy may play a role
"Furthermore the word viniyoga had even became popularised around the Yoga world as a style or brand name now known as Viniyoga. This he (Desikachar) felt had in many instances actually replaced the word Yoga rather than being a principle to draw from, support and apply as a teacher of Yoga. It had become known as ’Viniyoga’ or a means to identify as if another style or brand name". from Paul Harvey, Center for Yoga Studies.
And that's my fear, that Yoga Therapy, in some cases (multiplying experientially) will replace the word Yoga (to some extent) rather than being a principle to draw from, support and apply as a teacher of Yoga.
Example A. That somebody who has an interest in yoga and who has been practicing a little yoga for a period decides they might like to choose Yoga Therapist as a career. Off they go to one of the Yoga Therapist courses beginning to sprout up everywhere just as Yoga TT course have done over the last few years. After a little study, more or less depending on the integrity of the course, up goes the sign on the door, YOGA THERAPIST, and they begin to practice and with only a minimal personal practice.
That's the worst case scenario but I'm also concerned about the following example.
Example B. Somebody who has been practicing yoga intensely for a large number of years and has come to realise the therapeutic value of Yoga attends a highly reputable course, perhaps over a number of years. On completion of the course they focus more and more on Yoga Therapy in their work to the detriment of their own practice. The focus shifts more and more to one aspect of Yoga, to the practice of yoga therapy itself with ever lessening support of a committed personal practice and self inquiry. They become more Yoga Therapist than yoga practitioner/student, the techniques, the application, papers are written, conferences attended...
"Yoga Practice and Study was seen by T Krishnamacharya as embracing three interwoven threads:
These three aspects of Yoga practice as power, self-inquiry and therapy, are mutually supportive in helping to maintain physical health, psychological vitality and spiritual purpose within the commitment and challenges of life, work and relationships".
The quote above comes from this excellent article from Paul Harvey on his Centre for Yoga Studies which addresses directly some of my concerns (and calms them somewhat) while discussing the shift in focus of viniyoga, it's worth reading in full to give it context.
The Yoga of Healing: Exploring Yoga’s Holistic
Model for Health and Well-being
Kausthub Desikachar, M.S., M.M.S., assisted by Liz Bragdon, M.A., and Chase Bossart, B.A.
Interesting, reading this and the description of the qualities thought to be required of a Yoga Therapist/Healer, and how unsuited Kausthub Desikachar appears to be to the role ( one which he is already apparently seeking to return to) and by his own criteria.
Also this Yoga and modern medicine – Dr Uma Krishnaswamy talks to TKV Desikachar.
UPDATE: 24/01/13
Satya has just translated another ten pages of Krishnamacharya's Yogasanagalu, the Special instructions section. At one point Krishnamacharya discusses Yoga as treatment, therapy ( this book was written in 1941 remember).
"In addition, yoganga practice can act as treament for body ailments, mental(mind) disorders and can teach distinctions between, manifestations of jeevatma, paramatma and the entire universe.
We have now seen that the treatments for body and mental disorders are taught by qualified teachers in medical schools. Does not everyone know that treating such conditions independently could be very dangerous?
While practicing or teaching yogangasana, one must know which asanas and pranayamas to teach to whom? how many days? for which disease? (treatment) how many inhalations and exhalations? how long to do a particular asana? which asanas for obese individuals? which ones for lean body type? when to inhale and when to exhale? for how long? Don’t we need teachers and promoters who know these secrets?
We need some who are just demonstrators. However, if they don’t learn these secrets and want to only promote, it will not be of much use.
Yogarahasya (yogic secrets), ragarahasya (secret of music, melody), rajarahasya (secrets of a king, ruler), dampatya rahasya (secrets of married couple) are really confidential. It is not wise to act without understanding these essentials. These can be learned only from experienced elders and gurus. Even then, it will take a long time according to shastras. I hope the educated will take note of this."
I wrote in my previous post about my concerns regarding Yoga Therapy. On the one hand I recognise the therapeutic value of a Yoga practice as well as it's possibilities but on the other, the creation of the occupation of Yoga Therapist disturbs me. In the previous post I was trying to get to the bottom of why it disturbed me so much ( and failing).
I think I've finally worked out why it bothers me and I find myself in good company. TKV Desikachar seems to have had similar concerns, here the reference is to viniyoga in which aspects of yoga therapy may play a role
"Furthermore the word viniyoga had even became popularised around the Yoga world as a style or brand name now known as Viniyoga. This he (Desikachar) felt had in many instances actually replaced the word Yoga rather than being a principle to draw from, support and apply as a teacher of Yoga. It had become known as ’Viniyoga’ or a means to identify as if another style or brand name". from Paul Harvey, Center for Yoga Studies.
And that's my fear, that Yoga Therapy, in some cases (multiplying experientially) will replace the word Yoga (to some extent) rather than being a principle to draw from, support and apply as a teacher of Yoga.
Example A. That somebody who has an interest in yoga and who has been practicing a little yoga for a period decides they might like to choose Yoga Therapist as a career. Off they go to one of the Yoga Therapist courses beginning to sprout up everywhere just as Yoga TT course have done over the last few years. After a little study, more or less depending on the integrity of the course, up goes the sign on the door, YOGA THERAPIST, and they begin to practice and with only a minimal personal practice.
That's the worst case scenario but I'm also concerned about the following example.
Example B. Somebody who has been practicing yoga intensely for a large number of years and has come to realise the therapeutic value of Yoga attends a highly reputable course, perhaps over a number of years. On completion of the course they focus more and more on Yoga Therapy in their work to the detriment of their own practice. The focus shifts more and more to one aspect of Yoga, to the practice of yoga therapy itself with ever lessening support of a committed personal practice and self inquiry. They become more Yoga Therapist than yoga practitioner/student, the techniques, the application, papers are written, conferences attended...
"Yoga Practice and Study was seen by T Krishnamacharya as embracing three interwoven threads:
These three aspects of Yoga practice as power, self-inquiry and therapy, are mutually supportive in helping to maintain physical health, psychological vitality and spiritual purpose within the commitment and challenges of life, work and relationships".
The quote above comes from this excellent article from Paul Harvey on his Centre for Yoga Studies which addresses directly some of my concerns (and calms them somewhat) while discussing the shift in focus of viniyoga, it's worth reading in full to give it context.
What is Yoga and its application as the viniyoga of Yoga
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1. What is Yoga
2. Understanding the viniyoga of Yoga
3. The shift from the viniyoga of Yoga to Viniyoga as a ‘style’
4. The viniyoga of Yoga or application of Yoga
1. What is Yoga
2. Understanding the viniyoga of Yoga
3. The shift from the viniyoga of Yoga to Viniyoga as a ‘style’
4. The viniyoga of Yoga or application of Yoga
1. What is Yoga?
Yoga Practice and Study was seen by T Krishnamacharya as embracing three interwoven threads:
- Firstly Yoga Practice as a means of Power
Yoga can be used to link the body and the mind. It is the ability to achieve something through intense physical and mental effort (Śakti). For instance, to cultivate and maintain a state of concentration or to develop the body and the breath through refinement of various postures and breathing techniques. The consequences are power over and within the body and the mind. As such, Yoga can be seen as an art and offers a fascinating and helpful pursuit for many people looking to develop these qualities.
“What good is the sword of wisdom (jñāna asinā) to cut away the chains of illusion (avidyā) if the holder is too weak to bear it.”
- T Krishnamacharya
Traditionally this aspect is only a means towards a more important goal.
- Secondly Yoga Practice as a means of Self-inquiry
Yoga can also be used as a tool for a deeper understanding of ourselves by inquiring both into and beyond what we view as the everyday self, its actions and its motives (Adhyātmika). Here Yoga can be utilised to appreciate and sustain a quality of attention. This attention offers a space that can allow our actions or especially reactions to be less influenced by the more usual patternings within the mind.
“True liberty is what relationship you have with your habits.”
T Krishnamacharya
With a more sensitive and consistent attention we can lessen the effects of our conditionings. As a consequence we can experience a deeper sense of well being and have the potential for action with greater awareness within our life, work and relationships.
Yet we all experience problems, poor health or illness from time to time.
- Thirdly Yoga Practice as a means of Therapeutic Recovery
Yoga, as a restorative, support and preventative, can be a healing therapy to help us work at changing or anticipating the effects of problems and illness in our lives (Cikitsa). Here the approach must be different for each person as our potential to practice Yoga will be affected by the problem, or the problem by our attitude towards working with it.
Also according to traditional Indian medicine those diseases that are chronic and cannot be cured by medicine alone can also be helped by using Yoga techniques. So Yoga can be used as a support alongside other forms of treatment.
Utilising Yoga concepts it is possible, within a careful Group Yoga class or Individual Yoga teaching situation to introduce practices that both respect the problems or illness and support our intention to reduce their negative effects in the future. However, practicing Yoga as a therapy also presumes that we are willing to accept responsibility for making changes within our own situation.
“The patient must be his own doctor, must observe himself, use his own intelligence, and find the right tools. Fundamentally, the solution is in the patient’s discernment.
No one can understand for the patient.”
TKV Desikachar
These three aspects of Yoga practice as power, self-inquiry and therapy, are mutually supportive in helping to maintain physical health, psychological vitality and spiritual purpose within the commitment and challenges of life, work and relationships.
“Suffering is the starting point for the Yoga journey of four steps from:
the symptom (duḥkha or suffering);
through to the cause (avidyā or illusion);
to the path (kaivalya or independence);
to the means (aṣṭāṅga or 8 limbed path) for viveka or discrimination.
This fourfold process is at the heart of Yoga, Āyurveda and Buddhism.”
Paul Harvey
2. Understanding the viniyoga of Yoga
The principle of applying Yoga to the person is called the viniyoga of Yoga. It use, underpinning the teaching of Yoga according to different needs and situations, has long been referred to as ‘Viniyoga‘. The term viniyoga had come to be associated with TKV Desikachar’s methods of teaching Yoga.
It was adopted as a core concept from his twenty-seven year long study with his father and teacher Śrī T Krishnamacharya. The principle of viniyoga, as taught by T Krishnamacharya, was the personalised application of Yoga in order to make the essence and depth of Yoga available to all types and levels of practitioner.
TKV Desikachar had described it thus in May 1983 under the title ‘The viniyoga of Yoga’:
“Yoga is a mystery. It does not mean the same thing to each and everyone. In spite of the vast field it covers curing chronic ailments, extra-sensory perception, etc, hardly anyone is able to define it in simple terms. Where is then the hope of experiencing its true significance?
What about the risks of inappropriate use of Yoga methods and practices?
Why are so many people all over the world taking the word and the substance of Yoga so lightly, so ridiculously? Like everything, Yoga must be presented intelligently. It should be spoken of carefully and offered according to the aspiration, requirement and the culture of the individual.
This should be done in stages.
Systematic application of Yoga – be it concerned with physical exercises, deep breathing, relaxation, meditation, lifestyle, food, studies – is the need of the day.
This I believe – is what the word viniyoga represents.”
3. The shift from the viniyoga of Yoga to Viniyoga as a ‘Style’
However from 2002 Desikachar began to disassociate himself and his teacher’s teaching from being linked to the word Viniyoga because of the shift in popular perception from the concept of the viniyoga of Yoga not just to viniyoga but to Viniyoga. His original intention was that it would refer to an intelligent and systematic approach (viniyoga) to teaching Yoga for a Yoga teacher trained by T Krishnamacharya, TKV Desikachar, or one of his students.
“Teach what is inside you, not as it applies to you yourself, but as it applies to the other.”
T Krishnamacharya
Furthermore the word viniyoga had even became popularised around the Yoga world as a style or brand name now known as Viniyoga. This he felt had in many instances actually replaced the word Yoga rather than being a principle to draw from, support and apply as a teacher of Yoga. It had become known as ’Viniyoga’ or a means to identify as if another style or brand name.
This view was expressed by Desikachar through a seminar in Omega, New York in May 2002 around the theme “The Ocean of Yoga – From the Parts to the Whole” as: “The current world of yoga seems to be made up of many small parts, each one competing with and often confusing the other. This is not consistent with the spirit of yoga, whose very meaning is “to unite“.
To read or download an interview with Desikachar conducted during this May 2002 seminar, and published in Yoga and Health magazine in the UK in July 2003, as a PDF file – click here.
It was the replacing of the word Yoga by Viniyoga (rather than the viniyoga of Yoga) and his concern about the distortion and confusion where this had become the case within the wider field of Yoga that led to this re-appraisal of it’s choice, use and value and the consequent request not to use the word Viniyoga to represent his teacher’s teaching. He also emphasised through this interview that he did not wish the Viniyoga label to now be replaced with another identity using either his or his teacher’s name.
Interviewer: What if people started calling it Desikachar Yoga? Would that ruin it too because you suddenly have a label?Desikachar: It is really murdering – they are murdering my spirit! What I have received is from my teacher and what he received is from his teacher. There is a lineage of more than 2000 years. How can they label this Desikachar? They are murdering me because they are murdering my teacher.Interviewer: If they named it after your father that wouldn’t be good either?Desikachar: No, my father would be in tears. Whatever he invented, he never said he invented it. I know that he innovated things, but he would never say ‘it is mine’. That is the Indian philosophy of humility and respect for the teacher. They always would say, ‘my teacher taught this to me.’
Following on from this in April 2003 he emailed his students and asked them, in the spirit of guru daksina, to choose either not to use the word Viniyoga to represent his and his teacher’s Yoga teachings or to remove his and his teacher’s name from their communications.
Dear Friends,
When I introduced the concept of Viniyoga in the late 70’s and early 80’s, I never imagined that it will replace the word “yoga”.
I am extremely disappointed with the situation today, where this has become the case and caused so much distortion and confusion. Hence I request you to either delete the word Viniyoga to represent my teacher’s teaching, or remove my father’s and my name from your communications. This is the least you can do for me, as a guru dakshina.
Please feel free to forward this to other students whose email addresses I don’t have.
With Best Wishes
TKV Desikachar
It is this feeling that offers a potential message, as TKV Desikachar discusses in “What are we Seeking”, in that ‘Yoga is to relate and to unite‘. Yet according to the teaching of Krishnamacharya and Desikachar, Yoga must be taught in a way appropriate for each person and their situation.
4. The viniyoga of Yoga or application of Yoga
This is where Desikachar originally defined the word viniyoga in the earlier quotation as the viniyoga of Yoga, or the intelligent and systematic application of Yoga techniques according to the person and the uniqueness of their situation. This is the viniyoga of Yoga, it is the intelligent and systematic application (viniyoga) of Yoga, be it concerned with physical exercises, deep breathing, relaxation, meditation, lifestyle, food, studies, according to the person and their situation, and would be a truer way to describe how Practitioners trained in this particular teaching methodology work.
“There is an image in the world today that the guru has a following and his students follow him like the Pied Piper. This is not good. The true guru shows you the way. You go your way and then you’re on your own, because you know your place and you are grateful.
I can always thank my guru naturally and enjoy the relationship, but I do not have to follow him around, because then I am not in my own place.
Following the guru’s destination is another way of losing yourself. The yoga concept of svadharma means “your own dharma” or “your own way”. If you try to do somebody else’s dharma, trouble happens. The guru helps you find your own dharma.”
TKV Desikachar
The main aim is to personalise Yoga according to the individual and their situation, through respecting differences in age, gender, mental and physical health, lifestyle, occupation and interest, together with the persons current situation.
Care has been taken to preserve the spirit of transmission of these Yoga teachings which emphasise:
- Adaptation of all aspects of personal practice to our starting needs and future potential, integrating Yoga postures with movement, breath and attention, for better physical and mental health and enhanced awareness.
- A process that moves from a personalised Yoga practice adapted to our outer limitations towards a personal practice that explores our inner potentials.
- The individualised and progressively developmental use of the breath in Yoga practice as a primary tool to influence a person’s emotional, mental, energetic and physical well being.
- The value of a personalised relationship between the Yoga teacher, the Yoga teachings, the Yoga student and their Yoga practice.
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I've also been reviewing Ramaswami's own references to Yoga therapy within his books ( Yoga for the Three Stages of Life and Yoga beneath the Surface) and Newsletters.
Irony of ironies. Just as I was finishing off writing this post I heard my mail account beep with a new mail notification.
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| Thanks but No thanks |
Still in the cave (who knew they had wifi these days), comments still turned off, this is just an update to the previous post.
I was also sent this article (thank you) which is an interesting read
The Yoga of Healing: Exploring Yoga’s Holistic
Model for Health and Well-being
Kausthub Desikachar, M.S., M.M.S., assisted by Liz Bragdon, M.A., and Chase Bossart, B.A.
Interesting, reading this and the description of the qualities thought to be required of a Yoga Therapist/Healer, and how unsuited Kausthub Desikachar appears to be to the role ( one which he is already apparently seeking to return to) and by his own criteria.
Also this Yoga and modern medicine – Dr Uma Krishnaswamy talks to TKV Desikachar.
UPDATE: 24/01/13
Satya has just translated another ten pages of Krishnamacharya's Yogasanagalu, the Special instructions section. At one point Krishnamacharya discusses Yoga as treatment, therapy ( this book was written in 1941 remember).
"In addition, yoganga practice can act as treament for body ailments, mental(mind) disorders and can teach distinctions between, manifestations of jeevatma, paramatma and the entire universe.
We have now seen that the treatments for body and mental disorders are taught by qualified teachers in medical schools. Does not everyone know that treating such conditions independently could be very dangerous?
While practicing or teaching yogangasana, one must know which asanas and pranayamas to teach to whom? how many days? for which disease? (treatment) how many inhalations and exhalations? how long to do a particular asana? which asanas for obese individuals? which ones for lean body type? when to inhale and when to exhale? for how long? Don’t we need teachers and promoters who know these secrets?
We need some who are just demonstrators. However, if they don’t learn these secrets and want to only promote, it will not be of much use.
Yogarahasya (yogic secrets), ragarahasya (secret of music, melody), rajarahasya (secrets of a king, ruler), dampatya rahasya (secrets of married couple) are really confidential. It is not wise to act without understanding these essentials. These can be learned only from experienced elders and gurus. Even then, it will take a long time according to shastras. I hope the educated will take note of this."
Krishnamacharya Yogasanagalau
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