Sunday, 16 August 2026

Ashtanga, Why the change from Full to half vinyasa?

For the last two weeks I've been practicing full vinyasa, alternating Primary and Intermediate. Primary has been taking the longest so I've tended to practice that on my days off, it's taking a little over two hours. Full vinyasa Intermediate is taking me about 100 minutes.

Full vinyasa is the original form of Ashtanga taught by Sri Krishna Pattabhi Jois, after each asana you transition back to Standing as if doing a sun salutation. In postures where you switch legs, the Janu's and Marichi's for example, you practice half vinyasa between legs employing the more usual jump back and jump through, then after completing both sides you transition back to standing.

Jois said repeatedly that he only taught that which his own teacher Krishnamacharya had taught him, we can perhaps assume then that this was how Ashtanga was practiced/developed at the Mysore palace in the 1920's and 30's. Manju Jois says in an Interview that his father practiced Full Vinyasa and Krishnamacharya himself, presents full vinyasa practice in his Yoga Makaranda written in 1934. We can probably surmise that Krishnamacharya had been practicing and teaching Full vinyasa for some time before writing his book and can speculate whether this was the method taught to Krishnamacharya by his own teacher Brahmachari. Is it perhaps also the method of the Yoga Kuruntha, the Yoga text said to be written on palm leaves and later said to be destroyed by ants, that both Krishnamacharya and Jois refer to and that which Bramachari is said to have taught Krishnamacharya to memorise.

Krishnamacharya's Yoga Makaranda allows us to trace full vinyasa back seventy years at the vary least, which kind of begs the question,why abandon it now?

Yoga Makaranda (1934) Krishnamacharya Full vinyasa
Yoga Mala (1958) Sri Krishna Pattabhi Jois Full vinyasa
Ashtanga yoga under the guidence of SKPJ (1994) Lino Miele Full Vinyasa
Ashtanga yoga with a forward by SKPJ (2000 ) Full Vinyasa

I seem to remember reading somewhere that full vinyasa was considered too strenuous and even that there was the fear it could cause heart attacks. The latter is surely nonsense and the former doesn't seem to fit with my own practice. But of course I've only been practicing full vinyasa for two weeks, Gregor Maehle has this to say about full vinyasa '... as a long-term practice it may be difficult to sustain'. p21 Ashtanga yoga Practice and philosophy

I recently went back to Yoga Mala and rediscovered for myself the stress placed on long slow, steady inhalation and exhalation. Overnight my practice went from taking an hour to an hour and a half. I had learned Ashtanga from DVD's that rush through the practice and assumed that was the pace one should aim at, Sharaths own Primary series on DVD takes an hour. I figured it must be due to the time constraints of the DVD format, trying to cram as much on the disc as possible. Yesterday though, I watched a Led Advanced demonstration from 1987 led by SKPJ, again the count seemed rushed and the whole practice was over in 90-100 minutes and this seems to fit with many of the led classes/demonstrations I've seen. Perhaps it's not the constraints of the format but something to do with Led classes. Supposedly the led class was something new that Guruji introduced so he could make sure everyone was on the same page, practicing in the same way. I understand there's a led class twice a week in Mysore, I saw some videos of one of these posted by Govindakai, again quite a fast pace. Did this somehow become the norm? I don't visit Shala's but I know that many who read my blog do, how is it in your Shala, is the focus still on long slow, steady inhaling and exhaling or is it rush through the practice so you can get off to work?

When I was practicing at a breakneck speed, shifting to full vinyasa might have been a bit too much, but with my current slower pace I haven't found it any more strenuous, in fact quite the opposite. I find that it has helped my focus, this has especially been the case with Intermediate where coming back to standing after some heavy asanas has provided the opportunity to completely refocus the breath and the bandhas where and when necessary, in case your wondering, my Ujjaii manages to keep the heat turned up well enough.

Of course us who practice at home are free to explore full vinyasa, is it acceptable, I wonder, to practice full vinyasa in a Mysore 'self-practice' class, or would you have to wait for Lino to come to town with his Full Vinyasa workshop.

But there is of course another issue and this irks me. Are we or are we not preserving a practice. If it becomes acceptable to change from full to half vinyasa because the former is too strenuous or time consuming, or change from eight breaths in an asana to five, or turn Advanced Series into a 3RD and 4TH series, or switch and change asanas in a series or how poses are aligned, or no longer be given a variation that might help you achieve a pose but rather being stopped for months or years at a time instead, then what is it exactly that is being preserved. And shouldn't we blush when we criticise other forms of Yoga for not being pure enough or other Ashtangi's for not practicing ' correctly '. Are the changes that have been made an attempt to adapt the style to a western sensibility or out of practical concern for how such large numbers of practitioners can be taught.

This week on Youtube I watched Guruji lead four practitioners through the no longer current Ashtanga Advanced series in 1987. Manju Jois, in an interview, said that his Father learned Primary, Intermediate and Advanced Series from Krishnamacharya.
You can find the videos here
http://www.youtube.com/user/amirglick

On the same channel there are also some videos called 'Theory class with Sri Krishna Pattabhi Jois'. In one of them Guruji criticises the translations of the Yoga Sutras, suggesting that we don't have a hope of understanding them because so much has been lost in the translation.

8 comments:

Monxo Lopez said...

Grimmly:
I have been reading your blog for quite a long time, but this is the first time that I post here. In fact, about a month ago I bought the Vinyasa Krama book. It is weird that you are now talking about tradition and changing the rules of the game, when in fact YOU have been introducing neo-sequences in your practice, something that I very much admire and applaud. But, why the focus on tradition when in fact you yourself seem to be an innovator and, two, when the practice is supposed to adapt to us, just as we adapt to it?

thanks. Monxo

Grimmly said...

Ahhhh a very jucy question monxo, going to have to think about this one. First reaction though is that I don't think I'm so innovative. I think I'm just trying to see if I can bring the early and later Krishnamacharya together, I think it's consistency I'm after rather than tradition. But perhaps you've caught me out and I'm just trying to have my cake and eat it. Will think about this. Isn't VK a great book.

susananda said...

Rather pessimistic comment about the Yoga Sutras... I guess we have to read a lot of translations!

Don't forget it used to be called the Ashtanga Yoga RESEARCH Institute, this name itself implies to me that the practice was always a work in progress. Of course this element has been removed from the new name, which is interesting.

I think the main challenge in intermediate is learning to control the breathing and heart rate through some intense sequences, and I don't doubt you that full vinyasa is easier with that element removed...

At our shala during led, it's long slow breaths in the postures, vinyasas bang bang on the count, NO loitering around getting into the poses, 90 minutes.

Grimmly said...

Hey Susan, yes was a bit amused by his comment re the Sutras. Wanted to put him straight though, I mean we're all pretty clued up these days on crit theory. who approaches a text as gospel anymore, wouldn't anyone look for several translations and approaches, especially a readerly text like that.

The R bit or AYRI, always wondered why he did that and what research meant to him. Was it a sense of understanding better, rather than experimentation. VERY interesting that they've dropped that. Wonder if Sharath will change anything or rather try to keep it exactly as SKPJ left it.

For me intermediate just feels more balanced with Full vinyasa, am finally starting to enjoy it as much as Primary.

Learning from Books and DVD's clearly has it's limitations. But not necessarily the ones you expect. I think the DVD's reflect a led class but I'm not sure a led class really reflects Ashtanga as you find it in Yoga Mala, seems to be an example of where there's no substitute for the Shala and a teacher. But then I wonder if the Shalas start or will start to reflect the led classes and the dvd's. That said John Scott's and Lino's are pretty good.

Find all this stuff interesting.
Did you see Monxo caught me with a mouthful of cake : )

daydreamingmel said...

I have to say I had the exact same thought as Monxo when reading this post....having read your blog for a while it is clear that you don't always follow tradition, and in no way do I say this in a critical way, so it's interesting that your mind is coming up against this point now!
But full vinyasa, seriously? Wow I had no idea what that meant (I'm still kind of a newbie so you have to let me off). I'm all for following tradition but also for making the practice work for you - I practice at home and take maybe 1 Mysore class a week (all that my purse allows) but no way do I manage my full practice 6 days a week, every week as tradition would dictate. And I take an evening mysore class instead of a dawn one for banal reasons (like no showers at the shala), and despite my concerns that this wasn't "proper" I realise that the details of your practice don't have to be one particular way. They need to be right for you. So you've got the time, energy & inclination for full vinyasa? Great! But I'm not going to join you, even if it's the original tradition, because I might just be a heart attack contender :) Neither of us is "right" or "wrong", we're just finding what works for us.

Grimmly said...

Yes Mel I agree, the practice needs to fit you p27-30 of Jois' Yoga Mala is saying just that, though he does have a few basic guidelines that he believes should be followed by everyone, basically the order of the asanas and a handful of key asana that should always be practiced.

I'm certainly not saying that everyone should be practicing full vinyasa but rather illustrating how this is yet another case of how the system has been changed when it has suited the powers that be and that this challenges their or any other Ashtnaga practitioners authority to say you can't practice it that way or if you do then it's not Ashtanga.

Ashtnaga as I understand it is a flexible system with just a few simple guidelines. The Linking of breath and movement in all asanasa and vinyasa. Long inhales and exhales and plenty of them. A handful of key asanas that should be practiced in order and that any other asanas you practice should be followed in the right order. Vinyasa taken in between. Engagement of Bandhas. Oh and the correct Drishti.

Do full or half vinyasa if you want.
Do as few or as many asanas as your able depending on the time you have available..
Add an extra easier asana or two that may help you to achieve difficult asana or do a simpler variation.

Of course one of the other 'fixed' rules is that you shouldn't learn out of a book but from a guru, I fail miserably on that one.

But for all that I am kind of drawn to tradition too, I want it to have been passed on from some old guy practicing in a cave (Brahmachari) a hundred years ago or more. I'm sure the boy Sweeney is an excellent yoga practitioner but I have no interest in his Moon, Lion or aardvark sequences, they just don't interest me.

Monxo Lopez said...

Grimmly:
I have been practicing regularly around a year right now. It has been a wonderful experience, because being of the scholarly type, I have learned how to move towards more spiritual valleys without getting all religious crazy. Ha ha ha.

In any case, and I am talking about my experience, Mr. Iyengar, Mr. Ramaswami are quite -let's call it- loquacious...he he he. They have written a LOT of words, they expound a lot of theory, reasons, the logic behind things...and at least Mr. Iyengar...he has written a lot of books as well. It seems that he just can keep his mouth shut, which I DEEPLY appreciate! Ha ha ha. On the other hand we have Patthabi Jois, who was -let's call it- more literally reserved. And so, at times the scholarly inclined Ashtangi might feel frustrated by the few words that Patthabi Jois actually left us in print. And we look for those words elsewhere. For reasons, the theory, the guidance...the logic, the history of it all...

I know that I've read almost every Iyengar book, and now the Vinyasa Krama (among many many other books that I have acquired in the last year) and I am left with the frustration and the thought: why didn't Guruji write more? Why couldn't he expound his system more at large, like Mr. Iyengar, or Mr. Ramaswami, or even Desikachar?

I have also collected a rather extensive library of Ashtanga books, by Swenson, the Gregor Mehle, Mr. Scott, Lino Miele, whatever...secondary sources as it were....all bought, or illegally downloaded (he he he) because of my feeling that Guruji didn't write enough...and yet, as you have seen, Guruji might have written just a few words, but it seems to be ALL there. The slow breathing for once.

I mean, from the very beginning my instructor told me 'the point of the asanas is to be able to breath in them, they exist just for us to breath in them!', but anyways, my instinct refused to be jumping up and down like an aerobics class. I never had a hurry to finish, so having nothing else to do, I just took very looooong inhales and exhales. Then, just a few weeks ago, I read your quote from Yoga Mala...and it made me feel so good.

What I have to be very grateful to you is that you have 'discovered' a rather interesting idea: the phases of Krishnamacharya, the early Mr. K as compared to the late Mr. K. You have given me, through your musings and the discovery of the Vinyasa Krama book, a more historical idea of the practice. When the full vinyasa, when the half vinyasa, Lino does it this way, my instructor does it that way, why? You are involved on a search that is quite interesting, at least for me...and this blog has tremendously evolved from being a 'jump back' blog to being a more 'critical/questioning' blog about the practice. Exploring. Good. and Thanks. Monxo

Grimmly said...

Thank you Monxo, this is one of the nicest comment I've ever received, am quite touched. But no doubt there are another fifty readers out there who are thinking stop rabbiting away and post some more jump backs.

I saw a video of Mark Whitwell on Yotube. It's of a workshop, he has some people taking deep breaths and then raising their arms up and down with the breath and says that's it, that's yoga and pretty much all there is to it.
Makes me think the old saying that all Philosophy is just footnotes to Plato.

When you start, Yoga Mala is so unsatisfying. your looking for guidance on how to do an asana and it's just irritating to read, you skim though it and hardly even read it. Mehle and Swenson seem like mana from heaven but don't they also kind of obscure the practice just as much as they disclose it.

' ....while in the state, do Puraka and Rechka , slowly and deeply as much as possible'.

Was really quite something going back to Yoga Mala, as you say, it's all there. 1% theory.

thank you again for your comments this week.

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